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Links to Think: 13.04.22

April 22, 2013


A New Wave of Complementarianism – I appreciate Wendy’s thoughtful critique of some of the concerns surrounding the current state of complementarianism. In the remainder of the article, Wendy writes out 8 tenets which she believes are essentials of the “New Wave of Complementarianism.”

“There’s a new wave of complementarianism stirring. It’s not made up of true egalitarians, though those in this new movement respect many egalitarian concerns. Too often in the past, egalitarians and feminists were made out to be the bad guys with a complete disregard for the very real issues that concern those who hold feminist and/or egalitarian views. This new wave is also not the same as old school complementarianism, which rose up in the 1970’s in reaction to 2nd wave feminism. That type of complementarian view was founded upon Susan Foh’s interpretation of Genesis 3:16 as a desire among women after the fall to control their husbands. It is often linked with patriarchy.

I know of this new third way because women have been emailing me, messaging me, and calling me since I first started writing on things I noticed that undermined the traditional complementarian position back in 2010. Then almost exactly one year ago, I wrote my somewhat scholarly analysis of Genesis 3:16. Boy did that generate feedback. The vast majority of that feedback was positive from complementarian men and women. I also posted on the Gospel Coalition website, and again, woman after woman (including some who write for the Council of Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, The Gospel Coalition, and other respected blogs) wrote me privately to encourage me. This topic resonated! Like me, there are many women who love the Word and love the Church who have felt dissonance with the older version of complementarianism, especially when it came to the interpretation and implications of Genesis 3:16. The view that a woman’s root problem is that she desires to control the men in her life is painful to hear, in part because it is confusing from our real-life experience. I know of no better word to describe it than dissonance – the simple inconsistency between this belief we’ve been taught and the reality of our experience and the experience of those around us leaves us uncomfortable, feeling that something isn’t sitting right and is unresolved. The result is a growing 3rd way of interpreting and viewing gender issues in the Church that is neither egalitarian or hard core complementarianism/patriarchy.”

How not to say the wrong thing – An interesting look at what/how not to say when someone else is in a crisis situation. I think we should be willing to extend grace both ways–as recipients and comforters, and particularly as a Christian; but this has some food for thought. I know I’ve definitely said the wrong thing at the wrong time before!

“Most of us know this. Almost nobody would complain to the patient about how rotten she looks. Almost no one would say that looking at her makes them think of the fragility of life and their own closeness to death. In other words, we know enough not to dump into the center ring. Ring Theory merely expands that intuition and makes it more concrete: Don’t just avoid dumping into the center ring, avoid dumping into any ring smaller than your own.

Remember, you can say whatever you want if you just wait until you’re talking to someone in a larger ring than yours.

And don’t worry. You’ll get your turn in the center ring. You can count on that.”

How long did people live 100 years ago?  – We tend to write history how it fits our cause, and sometimes we make it a bit more dramatic than we need to. (And other times we do the opposite.) This is a helpful article on many points, although near the end the philosophy of the authors is quite evident.

“Of course people didn’t live long … the average life expectancy was 40 years”. How often have you heard this quote or something very similar? If you are a watcher of tv documentaries or attended public school anytime in the last 70 years or so you’ve probably heard this several hundred times. Just last night I heard it again while watching Frontier House, the PBS reality show from about 10 years back. The belief that most everyone in the past dropped dead around 40 is common. People with ancestors that lived to be old generally think the members of their family were just exceptionally long lived.

The story goes something like this: Prior to the introduction of antibiotics and vaccines most people succumbed to an infectious disease prior to or around middle age. Children died at a very high rate. Work was hard and cruel. Food was salty, fatty, monotonous, somewhat scarce and just plain bad for you. Life was short and miserable … Survival into old age was a rare miracle.

This is a myth. We’ve been mislead into believing this by a simple trick of statistics. In actuality life expectancy for a modern adult is pretty much the same now as it was back then. You’d expect it would be much better now with modern medicine but the statistics do not bear that out. What was it Mark Twain said?

“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

Let’s review the evidence then we can know more clearly just how long average people with decent kind of life lived prior to the advent of modern diets and modern medicines…”

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  • Julie Hall April 22, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    I’m sorry to put this in the comments, but I couldn’t find an email to contact you at. I wanted to do your faux canvas project that you posted a while back. I picked up a 30 by 40 canvas, but cannot find anywhere to get a print that big for a decent price. Do you know of a place or have an idea for how to use a smaller print?
    Thank you,

  • Lydia Strickler May 4, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    As an older complementarian wife and mom, I appreciate the work Wendy Alsup and friends are doing. So much giftedness has been lost to the church because women are viewed with suspicion. Hannah Anderson has some good essays on this topic on her blog at sometimesalight.

  • Lydia Strickler May 6, 2013 at 7:49 am

    Thanks Keren.

    Just read the links.

    • Keren May 21, 2013 at 9:19 pm

      Thanks! (And just realized your connection to Hannah. :))

      • Lydia Strickler May 21, 2013 at 9:25 pm

        Shamelessly promote family. 🙂